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Deuteros Plous, the immortality of the soul and the ontological argument for the existence of God


Ferber, Rafael (2018). Deuteros Plous, the immortality of the soul and the ontological argument for the existence of God. In: Cornelli, Gabriele; Robinson, Thomas; Bravo, Francisco. Plato's Phaedo : selected papers from the eleventh Symposium Platonicum. Baden Baden: Nomos Verlagsgesellschaft, 221-230.

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This is the shortened version of a paper given at the XI Symposium Platonicum, held in Brasilia, July 4th to 8th 2016. It deals with the deuteros plous, literally ‘the second voyage’, proverbially ‘the next best way’, discussed in Plato’s Phaedo, the key passage being Phd. 99e4-100a3. I argue that (a) the ‘flight into the logoi’ can have two different interpretations, a standard one and a non-standard one. The issue is whether at 99e-100a Socrates means that both the student of erga and the student of logoi consider images (‘the standard interpretation’), or the student of logoi does not consider images, but that “consistency [of the logoi] should suffice for truth” (‘the non-standard interpretation’). (b) The non-standard one implies the problem of the hypothesis, a problem analogous to the problem of the elenchus. (c) There is a structural analogy between Descartes’ ontological argument for the existence of God in his 5th Meditation and the final proof for the immortality of the soul in the Phaedo.

Abstract

This is the shortened version of a paper given at the XI Symposium Platonicum, held in Brasilia, July 4th to 8th 2016. It deals with the deuteros plous, literally ‘the second voyage’, proverbially ‘the next best way’, discussed in Plato’s Phaedo, the key passage being Phd. 99e4-100a3. I argue that (a) the ‘flight into the logoi’ can have two different interpretations, a standard one and a non-standard one. The issue is whether at 99e-100a Socrates means that both the student of erga and the student of logoi consider images (‘the standard interpretation’), or the student of logoi does not consider images, but that “consistency [of the logoi] should suffice for truth” (‘the non-standard interpretation’). (b) The non-standard one implies the problem of the hypothesis, a problem analogous to the problem of the elenchus. (c) There is a structural analogy between Descartes’ ontological argument for the existence of God in his 5th Meditation and the final proof for the immortality of the soul in the Phaedo.

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Item Type:Book Section, refereed, original work
Communities & Collections:06 Faculty of Arts > Institute of Philosophy
Dewey Decimal Classification:100 Philosophy
Language:English
Date:2018
Deposited On:15 Jan 2019 12:58
Last Modified:08 Feb 2022 15:12
Publisher:Nomos Verlagsgesellschaft
ISBN:978-3-89665-702-2
Additional Information:An enlarged version did appear under the title "Second Sailing towards Immortality and God: On Plato’s Phaedo, 99e4-100a3, with an Outlook on Descartes’ Meditations, AT VII, 67." in: Mnemosyne: Journal of Classical Studies, 74 (2021) 371-400: https://www.zora.uzh.ch/id/eprint/188997/
OA Status:Green
Publisher DOI:https://doi.org/10.5771/9783896657466
Related URLs:https://www.zora.uzh.ch/id/eprint/188997/

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